{"id":434,"date":"2024-03-07T08:46:33","date_gmt":"2024-03-07T07:46:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/?p=434"},"modified":"2024-03-08T06:50:29","modified_gmt":"2024-03-08T05:50:29","slug":"jak-elegantne-ovladat-ignore-ac-in-na-victron-multiplus-ii-pomoci-loxone-ci-cerba","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/?p=434","title":{"rendered":"Jak elegantn\u011b ovl\u00e1dat Ignore AC-In na Victron Multiplus II (i 3 f\u00e1zov\u00e9) pomoc\u00ed Loxone \u010di Cerba?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Na Internetu v r\u016fzn\u00fdch diskuz\u00edch je spousta p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvk\u016f, jak vy\u0159e\u0161it p\u0159ip\u00edn\u00e1n\u00ed \u010di odp\u00edn\u00e1n\u00ed AC-In vstupu (\u010dili nap\u00e1jen\u00ed ze s\u00edt\u011b) u BEZP\u0158ETOKOV\u00c9 elektr\u00e1rny. M\u016f\u017eeme se rovn\u011b\u017e do\u010d\u00edst, \u017ee ESS nen\u00ed \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed, proto\u017ee tam se ji\u017e mus\u00ed zadat Grid Code a n\u011bjak\u00e9 p\u0159etoky &#8211; s mo\u017enou penalizac\u00ed od distributora &#8211; hroz\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nejjednodu\u0161\u0161\u00ed je Virtual Switch &#8222;Ignore AC-In&#8220; a nastaven\u00ed podm\u00ednek, kdy se m\u00e1 \u010di nem\u00e1 sp\u00ednat &#8211; ov\u0161em ne\u017e vylad\u00edte ty spr\u00e1vn\u00e9 hodnoty, kdy se AC-In p\u0159ipoj\u00ed a kdy zase odpoj\u00ed, je to porod, proto\u017ee ka\u017ed\u00e1 zm\u011bna se mus\u00ed do Multiplusu nahr\u00e1vat bu\u010f pomoc\u00ed USB donglu nebo p\u0159es Remote Access ve VRM a znamen\u00e1 restart jednotky.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Inspirov\u00e1n <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=4ZsGHi8nKGc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">t\u00edmto videem<\/a> jsem se rozhodl nastavit sv\u00e9 Multiplusy, resp. sp\u00edn\u00e1n\u00ed AC-In pomoc\u00ed rel\u00e9 a vstupu AUX1. Nav\u00edc, je mo\u017eno vyu\u017e\u00edt bu\u010f logiku sp\u00edn\u00e1n\u00ed Rel\u00e91 v Cerbo (jak je nazna\u010deno ve videu &#8211; pro m\u011b to nen\u00ed cesta) a b\u00fdt zcela Loxone nez\u00e1visl\u00fd nebo pou\u017e\u00edt Loxone Digital Out s jednodu\u0161\u0161\u00edm (z hlediska zad\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed &#8211; Loxone Config) a z\u00e1rove\u0148 mnohem sofistikovan\u011bj\u0161\u00edm a komplexn\u011bj\u0161\u00edm (pokro\u010dil\u00e1 logika, vazba na Spot ceny apod.) nastavov\u00e1n\u00edm podm\u00ednek, ov\u0161em je to o jeden prvek nav\u00edc, kter\u00fd m\u016f\u017ee selhat. Obecn\u011b asi nic nebr\u00e1n\u00ed m\u00edt ob\u011b v\u00fdstupn\u00ed rel\u00e9 spojena paraleln\u011b a sp\u00ednat AC-In pomoc\u00ed jednoho \u010di druh\u00e9ho \u0159\u00edd\u00edc\u00edho syst\u00e9mu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Konfigurace: 3x Multiplus II 5000 ve t\u0159\u00edf\u00e1zov\u00e9m re\u017eimu + Cerbo, k tomu Pylonech 12x US3000C, n\u011bjak\u00e9 panely a Victron MPPT Trackery, Lynx Power-Iny a Distributory&#8230; Prost\u011b v\u0161e na Victron. Hodl\u00e1m p\u0159idat pro testov\u00e1n\u00ed i Victron Wallbox, abych zjistil, jestli je lep\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e (nep\u0159\u00edli\u0161 zda\u0159il\u00fd) <a href=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/?p=363\">Loxone Wallbox<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Logika je naprosto jednoduch\u00e1 &#8211; pokud je sepnut AUX1 na Multiplusu L1 (\u0159\u00edd\u00edc\u00ed), p\u0159ipne se AC-In na v\u0161ech Multiplusech. Nad\u00e1le z\u016fst\u00e1v\u00e1 mo\u017enost Power Assist, tzn. pos\u00edlen\u00ed v\u00fdstupn\u00edho proudu mixem nap\u00e1jen\u00ed z AC-In a invertov\u00e1n\u00edm z bateri\u00ed a Grid Code nem\u00e1m zad\u00e1n.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pro nastaven\u00ed pot\u0159ebujeme m\u00edt vypnuty Virtual Switche a p\u0159idat n\u00e1sleduj\u00edc\u00ed Asistenty POUZE do Master Multiplusu (u t\u0159\u00edf\u00e1zov\u00e9ho syst\u00e9mu to znamen\u00e1 pouze jeden ze t\u0159\u00ed, a to ten, na kter\u00e9m je fyzicky ovl\u00e1d\u00e1n AUX1):<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"632\" height=\"496\" src=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-31.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-436\" srcset=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-31.png 632w, https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-31-600x471.png 600w, https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-31-300x235.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 632px) 100vw, 632px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nastaven\u00ed asistent\u016f je trivi\u00e1ln\u00ed:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"363\" height=\"357\" src=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-33.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-438\" srcset=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-33.png 363w, https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-33-300x295.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 363px) 100vw, 363px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P\u0159elo\u017eeno do norm\u00e1ln\u00edho jazyka: Pokud je AUX1 na tomto Multiplusu rozpojen, nastav General Flag na ON, co\u017e znamen\u00e1 Ignoruj AC-In. Pokud je AUX1 spojen, nastav General Flag na Off a t\u00edm p\u00e1dem p\u0159ipoj AC-In. Jak prost\u00e9, mil\u00fd Watsone!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Podot\u00fdk\u00e1m, \u017ee p\u0159if\u00e1zov\u00e1n\u00ed trv\u00e1 cca 3 vte\u0159iny&#8230; Podle m\u011b jde o to, \u017ee p\u0159i vyu\u017eit\u00ed funkce Power Assist mus\u00ed nejen ud\u011blat prost\u00e9 p\u0159epnut\u00ed NC-IN na AC-Out, ale v\u00fdstup z investor\u016f mus\u00ed b\u00fdt s t\u00edmto vstupn\u00edm nap\u011bt\u00edm zcela toto\u017en\u00fd. Netestoval jsem, jestli pokud vypnu Power Assist, je p\u0159epnut\u00ed okam\u017eit\u00e9, mo\u017en\u00e9 to je.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"525\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/image-6.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-460\" srcset=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/image-6.png 525w, https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/image-6-300x180.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pokud je AC-In Ignorov\u00e1n, je vid\u011bt, \u017ee hodnoty nap\u011bt\u00ed a frekvence f\u00e1z\u00ed na vstupu a v\u00fdstupu nejsou ve shod\u011b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"489\" height=\"350\" src=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/image-10.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-464\" srcset=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/image-10.png 489w, https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/image-10-300x215.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 489px) 100vw, 489px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"487\" height=\"312\" src=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/image-11.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-465\" srcset=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/image-11.png 487w, https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/image-11-300x192.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 487px) 100vw, 487px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Zde AUX1 spojeno pomoc\u00ed rel\u00e9 v Loxone, p\u0159epne do re\u017eimu Passthru, kdy z\u00e1t\u011b\u017e je &#8222;krmena&#8220; z AC-In a PV Charger (\u010dili MPPT, nezam\u011b\u0148ovat s Chargerem v Multiplusu, ten m\u00e1m v t\u00e9to chv\u00edli \u00fapln\u011b zak\u00e1zan\u00fd) dob\u00edj\u00ed baterky. Vyu\u017eit\u00ed intern\u00edho Chargeru, kdy se baterky nab\u00edh\u00ed pr\u00e1v\u011b z AC-In, si uk\u00e1\u017eeme n\u011bkdy p\u0159\u00ed\u0161t\u011b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"525\" height=\"316\" src=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/image-12.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-466\" srcset=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/image-12.png 525w, https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/image-12-300x181.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hodnoty nap\u011bt\u00ed a frekvence na vstupu i v\u00fdstupu jsem pak toto\u017en\u00e9 (obr\u00e1zek u\u017e nep\u0159ikl\u00e1d\u00e1m, ale je to tak &#8211; viz Menu &#8211; Device List &#8211; Multiplus)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dov\u011btek:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>N\u011bkolik hodin jsem marn\u011b p\u00e1tral, pro\u010d, kdy\u017e m\u00e1m v\u0161e spr\u00e1vn\u011b nastaveno, mi i p\u0159i sepnut\u00e9m AUX1 a t\u00edm p\u00e1dem p\u0159ipojen\u00e9m AC-IN, kter\u00e9 je p\u0159if\u00e1zov\u00e1no, jede st\u00e1le v re\u017eimu Invertor a ne Pass-Thru&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Moje blbost, samoz\u0159ejm\u011b, v ran\u00e9m st\u00e1diu pokus\u016f jsem necht\u011bl, aby mi &#8222;sosal&#8220; z AC-In, a proto jsem Multiplus na Cerbu &#8222;vtipn\u011b&#8220; nastavil v menu &#8222;Switch&#8220; na &#8222;Inverter only&#8220; a pak na to zapomn\u011bl&#8230; To se pak m\u016f\u017eu divit, \u017ee to ne\/d\u011bl\u00e1 to, co m\u00e1 \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"525\" height=\"318\" src=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/image-7.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-461\" srcset=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/image-7.png 525w, https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/image-7-300x182.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Na Internetu v r\u016fzn\u00fdch diskuz\u00edch je spousta p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvk\u016f, jak vy\u0159e\u0161it p\u0159ip\u00edn\u00e1n\u00ed \u010di odp\u00edn\u00e1n\u00ed AC-In vstupu (\u010dili nap\u00e1jen\u00ed ze s\u00edt\u011b) u BEZP\u0158ETOKOV\u00c9 elektr\u00e1rny. M\u016f\u017eeme se rovn\u011b\u017e do\u010d\u00edst, \u017ee ESS nen\u00ed \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed, proto\u017ee tam se ji\u017e mus\u00ed zadat Grid Code a n\u011bjak\u00e9 p\u0159etoky &#8211; s mo\u017enou penalizac\u00ed od distributora &#8211; hroz\u00ed. Nejjednodu\u0161\u0161\u00ed je Virtual Switch &#8222;Ignore AC-In&#8220; [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":440,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[17,35,18],"tags":[61,39],"class_list":["post-434","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-dum","category-victron","category-loxone","tag-fotovoltaika","tag-victron-cerbo"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/434","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=434"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/434\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":469,"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/434\/revisions\/469"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/440"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=434"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=434"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=434"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}