{"id":274,"date":"2024-02-04T07:38:18","date_gmt":"2024-02-04T06:38:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/?p=274"},"modified":"2024-02-18T18:56:29","modified_gmt":"2024-02-18T17:56:29","slug":"hormann-uap1-hcp-integrace-do-loxone","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/?p=274","title":{"rendered":"H\u00f6rmann UAP1 HCP &#8211; integrace do Loxone"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><em>Pozn\u00e1mka: n\u00e1sleduj\u00edc\u00ed text popisuje zku\u0161enosti P\u0158ED vyd\u00e1n\u00edm Loxone H\u00f6rmann Air. Ten bude rozebr\u00e1n <a href=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/?p=246\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/?p=246\">v dal\u0161\u00edm p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvku<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>V n\u011bkolika na\u0161ich objektech se vykytuj\u00ed gar\u00e1\u017eov\u00e1 vrata a pohony H\u00f6rmann, r\u016fzn\u00e9ho st\u00e1\u0159\u00ed, cht\u011bl jsem je p\u0159irozen\u011b n\u011bjak integrovat do Loxone.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Prvn\u00edm o\u0159\u00ed\u0161kem bylo sehn\u00e1n\u00ed spr\u00e1vn\u00e9ho modulu (u H\u00f6rmann\u016f tomu \u0159\u00edkaj\u00ed &#8222;PLATINA&#8220;). R\u016fzn\u00e9 verze motor\u016f Supramatic a Promatic maj\u00ed r\u016fznou generaci rozhran\u00ed, po p\u00e1tr\u00e1n\u00ed a r\u016fzn\u00fdch optimalizac\u00edch jsem dosp\u011bl k tomu, \u017ee jsem rad\u011bji vym\u011bnil 2 hlavy motor\u016f Promatic2 za Promatic5, abych sjednotil rozhran\u00ed na nejnov\u011bj\u0161\u00ed typ a mohl v\u0161ude pou\u017e\u00edt modul UAP1-HCP (to HCP je d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9, d\u011bl\u00e1 se i star\u0161\u00ed deska UAP1).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"614\" height=\"294\" src=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-3.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-276\" srcset=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-3.png 614w, https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-3-600x287.png 600w, https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-3-300x144.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 614px) 100vw, 614px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Deska obsahuje 3 rel\u00e9 a n\u011bkolik ovl\u00e1dac\u00edch digit\u00e1ln\u00edch vstup\u016f, kdy\u017e jejich aktivace se p\u0159iv\u00e1d\u00ed p\u0159ipojen\u00edm GND \u010dili Log.0 na dan\u00fd vstup. Pr\u00e1v\u011b to mno\u017estv\u00ed vstup\u016f m\u011b zaujalo, je toti\u017e mo\u017eno ovl\u00e1dat vrata na n\u011bkolik r\u016fzn\u00fdch zp\u016fsob\u016f:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>n\u00e1hrada klasick\u00e9ho tla\u010d\u00edtka, \u010dili re\u017eim (sm\u011br1-stop-sm\u011br2-stop)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>\u00fapln\u00e9 otev\u0159en\u00ed<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>\u00fapln\u00e9 zav\u0159en\u00ed<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>otev\u0159\u00edt na ventilaci (to mi p\u0159i\u0161lo fajn, proto\u017ee v jedn\u00e9 d\u00edln\u011b jsou kamna bez extern\u00edho p\u0159\u00edstupu vzduchu, tak\u017ee v\u017edy v okam\u017eiku zatopen\u00ed, resp. dosa\u017een\u00ed n\u011bjak\u00e9 teploty v kamnech se dve\u0159e pootev\u0159ou na cca 1 cm a umo\u017e\u0148uj\u00ed p\u0159\u00edvod spalovac\u00edcho vzduchu do m\u00edstnosti)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>otev\u0159\u00edt do poloviny (p\u0159i\u010dem\u017e &#8222;polovina&#8220; je u model\u016f Supramatic definovateln\u00e1) &#8211; tam jsem cht\u011bl vyu\u017e\u00edt pro pu\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed psa dom\u016f p\u0159es gar\u00e1\u017e &#8211; otev\u0159\u00edt jen tak, aby se prot\u00e1hl<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>sp\u00edn\u00e1n\u00ed osv\u011btlen\u00ed, jak LED na hlav\u011b motoru, tak z\u00e1rove\u0148 i 3.extern\u00ed rel\u00e9 (a vtom je paradoxn\u011b nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00ed probl\u00e9m &#8211; viz d\u00e1le)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Nev\u00fdhodou je, \u017ee pro ka\u017ed\u00fd tento pokyn pot\u0159ebujete digit\u00e1ln\u00ed V\u00ddSTUP (rel\u00e9) na Loxone, co\u017e znamen\u00e1 cca 750 K\u010d pro 1 rel\u00e9 (p\u0159i pou\u017eit\u00ed Relay ext.).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rel\u00e9 v\u00fdstupy platiny jsou 3:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>signalizace \u00fapln\u00e9ho otev\u0159en\u00ed<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>signalizace \u00fapln\u00e9ho zav\u0159en\u00ed<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>(v\u00fdkonov\u00e9) sp\u00edn\u00e1n\u00ed extern\u00edho osv\u011btlen\u00ed, p\u0159i\u010dem\u017e toto rel\u00e9 je automaticky sepnuto s LED osv\u011btlen\u00edm p\u0159i pohonu vrat (co\u017e je taky probl\u00e9m &#8211; viz d\u00e1le). U Supramatic je snad mo\u017eno vypnout n\u011bkde v menu, ale na to aby \u010dlov\u011bk \u0161el na \u0161kolen\u00ed, jejich manu\u00e1l jsem \u010detl v \u010de\u0161tin\u011b i angli\u010dtin\u011b a moudr\u00fd jsem z toho nebyl, kombinace n\u011bkolika polo\u017eek v menu, vz\u00e1jemn\u011b se ovliv\u0148uj\u00edc\u00edch &#8211; p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 mnoho \u010dasu&#8230; Dal\u0161\u00ed v\u00fdzkum jsem opustil d\u00edky p\u0159\u00edchodu Loxone H\u00f6rmann Air.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Integrace do Loxone pro spr\u00e1vnou signalizaci funkce otev\u0159en\u00ed\/zav\u0159en\u00ed zabere 2 digit\u00e1ln\u00ed vstupy, co\u017e jsou dal\u0161\u00ed n\u00e1klady.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jednoduch\u00fd p\u0159\u00edklad integrace (bez ovl\u00e1d\u00e1n\u00ed vrat ventilace\/polovina a sv\u011btla):<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"741\" height=\"141\" src=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-4.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-277\" srcset=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-4.png 741w, https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-4-600x114.png 600w, https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-4-300x57.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 741px) 100vw, 741px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Tak\u00e9 je dobr\u00e9 nastavit pou\u017eit\u00ed hesla (abyste si neotv\u00edrali gar\u00e1\u017e n\u00e1hodn\u00fdm stiskem na mobilu v kapse) a spr\u00e1vn\u011b zm\u011b\u0159it \u010das j\u00edzdy nahoru a dol\u016f (nen\u00ed symetrick\u00fd). Tento parametr slou\u017e\u00ed jen pro spr\u00e1vnou vizualizaci pohybu \u010di rozsahu zav\u0159en\u00ed vrat v ovl\u00e1dac\u00ed aplikaci.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"399\" height=\"270\" src=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-6.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-279\" srcset=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-6.png 399w, https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/image-6-300x203.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 399px) 100vw, 399px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dal\u0161\u00edm krokem byla snaha o integraci osv\u011btlen\u00ed, tam jsem v\u0161ak narazil na nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00ed o\u0159\u00ed\u0161ek. Sv\u011btlo se toti\u017e zap\u00edn\u00e1\/vyp\u00edn\u00e1 p\u0159iveden\u00edm IMPULSU (Log.0) na dan\u00fd vstup na platin\u011b a cykluje on\/off. Na prvn\u00ed pohled prost\u00e9, by\u0165 Loxone bloky ovl\u00e1d\u00e1n\u00ed osv\u011btlen\u00ed funguj\u00ed naopak &#8211; p\u0159iveden\u00fdm impulsem zp\u016fsob\u00ed trval\u00fd v\u00fdstup (nap\u0159. sepnut\u00ed rel\u00e9). \u0160lo by vy\u0159e\u0161it detekc\u00ed hran a zaveden\u00edm zp\u011btn\u00e9 vazby, ale z\u00e1sadn\u00ed probl\u00e9m je ten, \u017ee se osv\u011btlen\u00ed rozsv\u00edt\u00ed automaticky tak\u00e9 P\u0158I POHYBU VRAT (a trv\u00e1 d\u00e9le, ne\u017e je samotn\u00fd pohyb). Ten nav\u00edc nemus\u00ed b\u00fdt v\u017edy do krajn\u00ed pozice, tak\u017ee n\u011bjak\u00e9 po\u010d\u00edt\u00e1n\u00ed \u010dasu taky nefunguje. \u010cili kdy\u017e m\u00e1te n\u011bkoho s d\u00e1lkov\u00fdm ovl\u00e1d\u00e1n\u00edm, kter\u00fd si vrata otv\u00edr\u00e1 zrovna v okam\u017eiku, kdy jin\u00e1 osoba vejde do m\u00edstnosti a \u010didlo pohybu po\u0161le puls na rozsv\u00edcen\u00ed, paradoxn\u011b si pohybem zhasnete a bez pohybu bude sv\u011btlo sv\u00edtit trvale.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jednodu\u0161e \u0159e\u010deno &#8211; v logice chyb\u00ed informace o tom, \u017ee rel\u00e9 je sepnuto. Ano, \u0161lo by jej pou\u017e\u00edvat pouze jako signalizaci, \u017ee sv\u011btlo sv\u00edt\u00ed, ov\u0161em pak by to cht\u011blo dal\u0161\u00ed v\u00fdkonov\u00fd prvek na sp\u00edn\u00e1n\u00ed tohoto osv\u011btlen\u00ed (bav\u00edm se o d\u00edln\u00e1ch a gar\u00e1\u017e\u00edch, tak\u017ee klasick\u00e9 on\/off, \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 LED p\u00e1sky a dimmery apod.). P\u0159\u00edpadn\u011b si p\u0159ip\u00e1jet vodi\u010d na platinu a zjistit, kdy je rel\u00e9 sepnuto, ov\u0161em to znamen\u00e1 ztr\u00e1tu z\u00e1ruky.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M\u011bl jsem na to n\u011bjakou pom\u011brn\u011b slo\u017eitou logiku, a p\u0159esto jsem nedok\u00e1zal zamezit tomuto p\u0159evracen\u00ed zhas\u00edn\u00e1n\u00ed\/rozsv\u011bcen\u00ed p\u0159i n\u00e1hodn\u00fdch situac\u00edch, kdy dve\u0159e byly ovl\u00e1d\u00e1ny mimo Loxone prost\u00fdm d\u00e1lkov\u00fdm ovlada\u010dem.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mo\u017en\u00e1 \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed existuje, mn\u011b u\u017e bylo l\u00edto \u010dasu na dal\u0161\u00ed p\u00e1tr\u00e1n\u00ed, kdy\u017e p\u0159i\u0161el <a href=\"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/?p=246\">Loxone H\u00f6rmann Air<\/a>, ke kter\u00e9mu jsem se na z\u00e1klad\u011b propaga\u010dn\u00edho videa pom\u011brn\u011b upnul. Bylo-li m\u00e9 o\u010dek\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed napln\u011bno, se dozv\u00edte p\u0159\u00ed\u0161t\u011b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P\u0159\u00edpadn\u011b, pokud m\u00e1 n\u011bkdo funk\u010dn\u011b vy\u0159e\u0161eno ovl\u00e1d\u00e1n\u00ed osv\u011btlen\u00ed, r\u00e1d zve\u0159ejn\u00edm \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed nebo odkaz.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pozn\u00e1mka: n\u00e1sleduj\u00edc\u00ed text popisuje zku\u0161enosti P\u0158ED vyd\u00e1n\u00edm Loxone H\u00f6rmann Air. Ten bude rozebr\u00e1n v dal\u0161\u00edm p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvku. V n\u011bkolika na\u0161ich objektech se vykytuj\u00ed gar\u00e1\u017eov\u00e1 vrata a pohony H\u00f6rmann, r\u016fzn\u00e9ho st\u00e1\u0159\u00ed, cht\u011bl jsem je p\u0159irozen\u011b n\u011bjak integrovat do Loxone. Prvn\u00edm o\u0159\u00ed\u0161kem bylo sehn\u00e1n\u00ed spr\u00e1vn\u00e9ho modulu (u H\u00f6rmann\u016f tomu \u0159\u00edkaj\u00ed &#8222;PLATINA&#8220;). R\u016fzn\u00e9 verze motor\u016f Supramatic a Promatic maj\u00ed [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":275,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[17,18],"tags":[38,50,34],"class_list":["post-274","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-dum","category-loxone","tag-digitalni-vstup","tag-garazova-vrata","tag-ovladani-osvetleni"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/274","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=274"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/274\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":325,"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/274\/revisions\/325"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/275"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=274"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=274"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/loxoneworks.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=274"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}